There's only two kinds of people in America right now

@P7formula said in #37:
> This is one reason democracy can never succeed today; people like to define things as they will, they are deeply despotic on the personal level and really only want a government as a servant who has unlimited wealth they can be given.

ok...should I put you down for "doesn't want democracy to continue"?

@spidersneedlovetoo said in #41:
> ok...should I put you down for "doesn't want democracy to continue"?

Can you refute Aristotle? He states that democracy has a cyclical nature which always ends in tyranny and dictatorship, and that the only correct form of government is Monarchy.
I myself believe polity is best at the present time, these things are not according to free will they must be fitting., much like a million dollars on a desert island your very weak demand here is getting pathetic.
To you and other Democrats that term is useful because it is in your name but reality is much different and holding democracy as an ideal is truly only for Hellenistic poor who are smart enough to carry on from invention but that is the past. Athens is demolished and Greece today a fishing village.

@Bobby-Robby said in #31:
> There's only two types of doors: those which are open and those which are closed.
No those that open by pushing and those that open by pulling. A closed door is the same door, you mean passage way or opening.

..and daily mcdonalds visitors not to forget

Here's another take on the problem of keeping democracy in the U. S.:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ihv9XStzYM

@Bobby-Robby said in #31:
> There's only two types of doors: those which are open and those which are closed.

You can also have a door that is ajar...

@P7formula said in #42:
> Can you refute Aristotle? He states that democracy has a cyclical nature which always ends in tyranny and dictatorship, and that the only correct form of government is Monarchy.

Sure, easily refutable. You say democracy has a cyclical nature which ends in tyranny and dictatorship. However, monarchy is dictatorship by definition--a monarch is an unelected head of state that you cannot vote out of office, and cannot hold to account if they are oppressive or violent.

Cycling between democracy and dictatorship is much better than permanent dictatorship. Being oppressed some of the time is better than being oppressed all the time. In other words, democracy is better than monarchy.

Additionally, democracy can last a damn long time. Both of us are Americans. The USA's democracy has lasted 200+ years. Not sure why you would act like that's insignificant. It is cynical beyond belief to suggest that we should embrace monarchy over democracy, given how well democracy has worked in our country. Sure, the Trump years were scary, but good luck finding a monarchy with a better 200 year track record than our democracy.

@P7formula said in #42:
> Can you refute Aristotle? He states that democracy has a cyclical nature which always ends in tyranny and dictatorship, and that the only correct form of government is Monarchy.
Aristote also thought that objects fall in straight line and constant speed because the center of the Earth is their natural place.

But even assuming Aristotle was right about Greek politics, it should be noted that the ancient Greek political system was massively different than nowadays. They had small city-states independent from each other. Nowadays we have massive states counting millions of citizens. It's not hard to grasp that the political dynamics of these two systems can't be compared in any relevant way.

Democracy is concealed monarchy, the very fact that a person like you composed of pretty much the same thing as you rules you absolutely is messed up, as long as it's politics, it robs people of Independence

@Plasmius said in #49:
> Democracy is concealed monarchy, the very fact that a person like you composed of pretty much the same thing as you rules you absolutely is messed up, as long as it's politics, it robs people of Independence

You should know.